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Cine sau ce credeti ca se potriveste descrierii omului faradelegii (fiului pierzarii)?

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1. Cat priveste venirea Domnului nostru Isus Hristos si strangerea noastra laolalta cu El, va rugam, fratilor,
2. sa nu va lasati clatinati asa de repede in mintea voastra si sa nu va tulburati de vreun duh, nici de vreo vorba, nici de vreo epistola, ca venind de la noi, ca si cum ziua Domnului ar fi si venit chiar.
3. Nimeni sa nu va amageasca in vreun chip; caci nu va veni inainte ca sa fi venit lepadarea de credinta si de a se descoperi omul faradelegii, fiul pierzarii,
4. potrivnicul care se inalta mai presus de tot ce se numeste „Dumnezeu” sau de ce este vrednic de inchinare. Asa ca se va aseza in Templul lui Dumnezeu, dandu-se drept Dumnezeu.

Potrivnicul nu are o anumita religie. Nu este crestin, nici musulman, nici evreu, nici budist. El se opune si se inalta mai presus decat tot ce se numeste Dumnezeu. Nu zice ca se opune Dumnezeului Bibliei sau ca se inalta mai presus decat El ci zice ca se opune si se inalta mai presus de tot ce se numeste Dumnezeu. Ceea ce oamenii numesc Dumnezeu, fiul pierzarii va opune. Si mai mult de atat va spune ca el este Dumnezeu.
Fiul pierzarii nu va veni ca sa spuna crestinilor ca el este Dumnezeu sau Isus. Nu va veni ca sa spuna musulmanilor ca el este Alah sau Mohamed. Nu va veni ca sa spuna budistilor ca el este Buda. Nu. El se va opune tuturor acestora si va spune ca el este Dumnezeu.
Fiul pierzarii nu va fi nici ateu sau agnostic. Un ateu nu va putea spune ca el este Dumnezeu atata timp cat nu crede in existenta lui Dumnezeu. Fiul pierzarii nu zice ca toti oamenii sunt dumnezei, el spune ca el este Dumnezeu.

Cum se va prezenta acesta oamenilor astfel incat sa fie crezut? Pentru ca va fi crezut de toti: oameni din toate religiile lumii, atei, agnostici, oameni de stiinta.

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Stiau….

Tot citind ce scrie unul si altul de-a lungul timpului (prin carti, articole) am ramas cu impresia ca mai marii religiosi ai vremii nu au inteles profetiile biblice si nu au inteles cine este Isus, au crezut ca blasfemiaza si de aceea L-au ucis.
Se pare insa ca nu este asa. Ei stiau foarte bine cine este Isus si au vrut sa-L omoare crezand ca astfel scapa de El si raman ei mostenitori peste pamant. Chestia cu blasfemia cred ca era discursul pentru poporul nestiutor.

Luca 20
1. Intr-una din acele zile, cand invata Isus norodul in Templu si propovaduia Evanghelia, au venit deodata la El preotii cei mai de seama si carturarii cu batranii
2. si I-au zis: „Spune-ne, cu ce putere faci Tu aceste lucruri sau cine Ti-a dat puterea aceasta?”
3. Drept raspuns, El le-a zis: „Am sa va pun si Eu o intrebare. Spuneti-Mi:
4. Botezul lui Ioan venea din cer sau de la oameni?”
5. Dar ei cugetau astfel intre ei: „Daca raspundem: „Din cer”, va zice: „Atunci de ce nu l-ati crezut?”
6. Si daca raspundem: „De la oameni”, tot norodul ne va ucide cu pietre; caci este incredintat ca Ioan era un proroc.”
7. Atunci au raspuns ca nu stiu de unde venea botezul lui Ioan.
8. Si Isus le-a zis: „Nici Eu n-am sa va spun cu ce putere fac aceste lucruri.”
9. Apoi a inceput sa spuna norodului pilda aceasta: „Un om a sadit o vie, a arendat-o unor vieri si a plecat intr-o alta tara, pentru o vreme indelungata.
10. La vremea roadelor, a trimis la vieri un rob, ca sa-i dea partea lui din rodul viei. Vierii l-au batut si l-au trimis inapoi cu mainile goale.
11. A mai trimis un alt rob; ei l-au batut si pe acela, l-au batjocorit si l-au trimis inapoi cu mainile goale.
12. A mai trimis un al treilea rob; ei l-au ranit si pe acela si l-au scos afara.
13. Stapanul viei a zis: „Ce sa fac? Am sa trimit pe fiul meu preaiubit; poate ca il vor primi cu cinste.”
14. Dar vierii, cand l-au vazut, s-au sfatuit intre ei si au zis: „Iata mostenitorul; veniti sa-l ucidem, ca mostenirea sa fie a noastra.”
15. Si l-au scos afara din vie si l-au omorat. Acum, ce le va face stapanul viei?
16. Va veni, va pierde pe vierii aceia, si via o va da altora.” Cand au auzit ei cuvintele acestea, au zis: „Nicidecum!”

17. Dar Isus i-a privit drept in fata si a zis: „Ce inseamna cuvintele acestea care au fost scrise: „Piatra pe care au lepadat-o zidarii a ajuns sa fie pusa in capul unghiului”?
18. Oricine va cadea peste piatra aceasta va fi zdrobit de ea: si pe acela peste care va cadea ea, il va spulbera”.
19. Preotii cei mai de seama si carturarii cautau sa puna mana pe El chiar in ceasul acela, dar se temeau de norod. Pricepusera ca Isus spusese pilda aceasta impotriva lor.
20. Au inceput sa pandeasca pe Isus; si au trimis niste iscoditori care se prefaceau ca sunt neprihaniti ca sa-L prinda cu vorba si sa-L dea pe mana stapanirii si pe mana puterii dregatorului.

In Ezechiel capitolele 8 si 9 vedem cum Dumnezeu ii arata profetului idolatria care se petrecea chiar in templu. Se inchinau idolilor, il plangeau pe Tamuz, etc, chiar in templu!
Aceeasi idolatrie se petrece si in ziua de azi si cei care o practica stiu cine este Isus, vor sa lupte cu El la a doua Sa venire si pacalesc masele. Acesti oameni chiar au crezut si inca mai cred ca Il pot detrona pe Dumnezeu. Asa se explica de ce omenirea va fi stransa la razboi impotriva Domnului Isus la Armaghedon. Ei stiu cu cine se vor lupta si asta vor sa faca.

Pastorii/evanghelistii si faptele lor

Sunt de parere ca atunci cand urmaresti un pastor/evanghelist sau invatator al cuvantului lui Dumnezeu, ceea ce acesta predica trebuie verificat prin prisma a 2 lucruri:
– daca invatatura este conforma cu Biblia
– daca ceea ce predica, omul respectiv pune in practica, daca are rezultate

Sunt 2 oameni care predica cuvantul lui Dumnezeu pe care ii urmaresc si care pana acum ceea ce au spus verifica Biblia: Andrew Wommack si Chris Oyakhilome. Nu numai ca ceea ce predica se verifica dar si traiesc ceea ce ii invata pe altii.

La un moment dat, in viata pastorului Chris Oyakhilome a aparut o problema, si anume faptul ca sotia lui a dat divort de el. Acesta nu este un lucru pentru care sa acuzi un om atata timp cat actiunea nu este generata de el si atata timp cat nu e de acord cu ea. Am incercat sa ma informez asupra situatiei, nu atat pentru a judeca cat pentru a intelege actiunile celui care predica, pentru a vedea daca pune in practica sau nu invatatura Bibliei. Din cate am inteles pana acum (lucruri care ar putea fi corecte sau poate nu) sotia pastorului a inceput sa devina nemultumita pentru ca nu primeste suficienta atentie din partea sotului. Pot intelege ca o femeie casatorita are nevoie de atentia, afectiunea si protectia sotului ei, mai ales cand mai are de crescut si 2 copii. Cu ce nu sunt de acord este faptul ca o femeie care se casatoreste cu un om ce vrea sa il slujeasca pe Dumnezeu trebuie sa fie constienta de faptul ca a lucra pentru Dumnezeu poate sa ii ia ei din timpul petrecut cu sotul ei pentru o cauza nobila. Am sa pun mai jos un verset care se refera la o astfel de situatie:

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29. Si oricine a lasat case, sau frati, sau surori, sau tata, sau mama, sau nevasta, sau feciori, sau holde, pentru Numele Meu, va primi insutit si va mosteni viata vesnica.

Acest verset nu sustine divortul, pentru ca un crestin nu are voie sa divorteze, dar arata cam la cat se poate astepta o sotie de pastor de la sotul ei…

UPDATE: Trist!

Inteleg ca Rob Skiba nu a cedat pana la urma presiunilor si a pus la loc site-ul pe care isi publica cercetarile in ceea ce priveste geocentrismul/heliocentrismul/forma pamantului.

Recomand acest site: http://www.testingtheglobe.com

Cred ca este important de inteles acest subiect in mod corect nu doar din prisma dorintei de a cunoaste adevarul cat pentru a intelege corect evenimentele viitoare.

As some of you may have noticed, on August 16th, I basically shut the site down, posting only the YouTube video of the Phil Collins song, „I Don’t Care Anymore” with a brief, frustrated commentary below it because that’s basically where I was that day. If you have not experienced it yet, you will soon find that this particular subject matter – like no other – tends to bring out the very worst in people. Indeed, almost since day one, this „quest for truth” has brought us nothing but pain and significant damage – emotionally, spiritually and especially financially. The attacks have been relentless. This tells me that there must be something to it, for the enemy to respond that way. I’ve covered many controversial subjects in my life, but none have even come close to bringing the kind of resistance as this one. So, the day I shut this site down, I was really feeling like I never should have even gone down this „rabbit trail” in the first place and I had truly had enough of it all. But I now realize that was selfish of me. I know many people have come to rely on this site for their own quest for truth, so I am sorry. My „haters” have been so vocal that I ended up forgetting how many supporters we have too. When I shut the site down, many people reached out to me, sharing how much this site and my quest to understand the nature of our world and its place in the cosmos has meant to them. They shared how many people’s lives have actually been impacted in a positive way. They asked me not to „grow weary in well doing” and encouraged me not to give up. While I may still be uncertain concerning the matters covered on this site, and while we’ve had to endure much negativity along the way, I have to remind myself that one changed life makes it all worth it. That said, we desperately need your support. So, with that in mind, I hope you enjoy the information presented here… and I will do my best to not let it get to me again. I only ask that you do your best to help us along our journey. If truth is the end goal, what better way to get there than together?

Sincerely,

Rob Skiba

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Viziunea primita de Oral Roberts

The Vision

„In the midst of the turmoil, the fear and the anxiety that’s in our nation and in our world, as I was walking and meditating, I heard the voice of God. I’ve heard that voice many times. It’s too familiar to me, and there’s no way that I can fail to understand His voice because I’m familiar with it. And instantly I heard that voice and I heard it and then I saw with my eyes something I’d never seen.

Suddenly, in the clouds in the skies above New York City and the east part of the United States, and which hung there for quite sometime and then spread out across America, without touching the ground, and then God diffused it away from America and sent it out to the nations of the earth. And I saw and I heard. What did I see? I saw something coming down from above: Smoke and vapor and blood, or it looked like that to my eyes, to my spiritual eyes.

There it was hanging so huge until it almost blotted out the sky. Instantly I thought about 9/11, when the terrorists attacked the Twin Towers and through television all of us in America, and probably the world, saw those more than 100-story-high buildings crumple and heard the cry of thousands of people who were being either killed or wounded. I remembered the fear that struck my heart and knew that what I was feeling everybody else was feeling and remembered that never in the history of the world, and certainly not of America, that something of this proportion had struck the human race and was a preview of things similar to it that were going to happen through what we now call terrorists.

First, I saw this thing hovering and great changes coming in it to where I couldn’t miss it. And then I heard, something came into my ears, and it reminded me of what a friend of mine had said when the first space capsule was released into the sky.

He was a newsman in New York City and maybe half a mile or more away from the capsule. And he said when that thing lifted off the earth, there was a sound, and the sound itself moved the weeds and the growth, and he said, „It penetrated my body.” He said, „As I talked to others, they felt the same thing.” He said the sound was so enormous that nothing had ever happened like it in the history of the world. Instantly, I thought of that because the sound that was coming into my ears was penetrating my whole being.

And then I heard God’s voice. He said: „I’m making a sign.”

This is a sign according to the second chapter of Acts, where the apostle Peter, upon the giving of the Holy Spirit, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, said there’ll be signs in the skies.”

He said, „This is one of the signs of the end time because the world is not ready for the second coming of my Son.” He said, „My church is not ready for the second coming of my Son.”

He said, „The Jews, with whom I’ve had the covenant for thousands of years, they’re not ready for the second coming of my Son.” He said, „The nations of the earth are not ready for the second coming of my Son.”

He said, „America has been set aside by a special covenant that I made with many of the people who came to found this nation several hundred years ago, that this was My nation and the gospel was going to go out from it unlike any other nation and there’d be more gospel going out from America.”

And He said, not only would there be a powerful military presence in the United States unlike any other nation, but it would be the center of the gospel that I was sending out.

And He said to me, „You remember that I said in My Bible to my disciples 2,000 years ago, ‘Go into all the world and teach all nations, and when that teaching has reached the nations then shall the end come.'” And then he startled me. He said, „With all of the widespread force of my church in the world, but particularly in the United States, which is the source of most of the gospel that’s being preached in all the world,”

He said, „There is a wasting of My power, there is a failure to grasp the end time. And the church, they are coming to church on Sunday morning mostly for themselves. And the preachers, for the most part, are not really concerned about the nations of the earth.”

„They’re concerned about the little group that is there, and they sing their songs and they get up and preach.” And He said, „When 9/11 struck, there was a fear that came into the hearts, even of My people of the church and of the people outside the church. And millions the following Sunday or two rushed to go to church.”

„But the preachers were not prepared, and most of them didn’t even preach on it and didn’t even talk about it being the sign of something that’s coming hundreds of thousands of times bigger.”

He said, „When those planes of the terrorists struck the Twin Towers in New York City and they gradually came tumbling down, it was something bigger than people had ever seen, but it’s nothing in comparison to what’s going to happen in the second coming of my Son.” And so He said, „My church was not prepared to deal with that, and people came to church and then nothing much happened and they dropped back and many of them went back to their bars,” as I heard Kenneth Copeland say.

„And there I was with my whole creation that’s alive in the earth, not counting all those who have died—millions who have lived and died, all of whom will be resurrected at some time in the future, having to do with the second coming of my Son, some to everlasting life, some to live forever in their new bodies and some to everlasting shame and contempt forever lost.” And He said, „I love people. I created them. I love them by creation. I love them because I sent My only begotten Son.” And instantly I thought of the great show that Mel Gibson made of The Passion.

When millions upon millions went to see it and are seeing it now all over the world. I remember when I sat there with my wife, watching it, and how my soul was stirred and the tears sprang from my eyes and my body trembled as I saw something about the sufferings of Jesus, the Son of God, to save the human race and so that the devil would not destroy God’s creation. He would not destroy men, women and children that God had created and for whom Jesus had died and rose from the dead that we might be born again—we might repent of our sins and have salvation and come into a readiness for the coming of Christ. And He says, „As you know in the Bible, the second coming is in two parts. One is called the rapture, one is called the revelation.

„And first of all I’m going to rapture, or catch up, My people—the people who are born of my Spirit and filled with My Spirit and serving me. I’m going to catch them up in a moment of time and they’ll meet My Son in the clouds and come on into heaven, into My presence. And then not long after I’m going to bring that bride of Christ back with Jesus when He comes the second time to the earth, and that’ll be the beginning of the judgment of the nations.”

But He said, „The thing that is breaking my heart is that I commanded my people, I commanded My church to preach the gospel in all the world and to teach all nations. And while they are evangelists and pastors and prophets and apostles and all kinds of my workers in various parts of the world and in some of the nations of the earth, it’s just a drop in the bucket to what I commanded My disciples to do.”

„And I love people so much I cannot afford to let people go on like they are. And then He directed my attention to the book of Matthew, the 24th chapter, where He speaks in the 24th chapter and beginning at verse 35:

„Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away. Concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. As were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.”

Now, He reminded me in the 6th chapter of Genesis that the earth was filled with violence and it was so full it couldn’t be any more full and it grieved the heart of God that He had made man and he decided that He would destroy man and begin over, and He established a remnant and it was a family: Noah and his family. And He commanded him to build a huge boat that would take two of every living thing in it so when the flood came—and they’d never had rain before in the earth, it had been watered by a mist.

But He said, when the flood comes and this boat with this family and two of every living thing gets in it and the flood lifts them up from the earth that’s being destroyed, or from the human race that’s being destroyed, the flood that lifts the ark, or the remnant of my people, in Noah’s day, will come down in judgment upon the people of the earth.

And He said …

Now, there’s got to be preaching with fire in the belly!

There’s got to be an anointing of the holy ghost. My church has to wake up because what I’m revealing in this sign that „every” eye is going to see, „every” ear is going to hear. They’ll see this thing. They will not necessarily know what it is, but it’s a wake-up call about the Second Coming of my son!

It’s not going to come and touch the earth. It’s going to be seen, it’s going to be heard, and people are going to become aware of the drama of the end time, of the Second Coming of Christ. When He splits the skies and comes back with His bride and takes over the reign of the earth and He destroys the Antichrist, who will arise at that time. He will destroy the followers of Antichrist and He’ll establish His kingdom upon the earth. And He said, „I cannot let anybody live and die without knowledge that my Son is coming back the second time.”

Trist!

Rob Skiba a inceput in primavara anului acesta o aventura in care incerca sa vada care este treaba cu teoria pamantului plat. Infintase un site pe care isi punea toate studiile. Din pacate astazi site-ul lui nu mai contine nici un fel de informatie, doar urmatorul mesaj:

Sorry, but this particular „quest for truth” has brought us nothing but pain and significant damage – emotionally, spiritually and especially financially – on top of a lot of other crap we’ve had to deal with at the same time. I now wish I had never gone down this „rabbit trail” as along the way, I have found that MOST people don’t care at all about truth (no matter what the topic is) and they have no desire to question what they’ve been taught about anything. So at this point, I’m done caring too. Believe whatever the hell you want. With any luck, it’ll all hit the fan next month (September) anyway. Hopefully, by then, whatever you read, heard or saw prior to me deleting everything will help you deal with whatever the future does or does not hold for us all. – See more at: http://www.testingtheglobe.com/#sthash.cfrVf0QP.dpuf

Pe pagina de Contact gasim urmatoarele:

Thank you for your interest in contacting me. I’m sorry, but I no longer have the energy nor desire to discuss this subject anymore. I’ve had freaking psychotic, ill-informed lunatics accusing me of being a CIA shill or Jesuit plant (or worse) who has supposedly been put here to deceive the masses and that I’m on some government or illuminati payroll, apparently getting rich off of the alleged „deceptions” I’ve been putting out. That is such an unbelievable load of b.s. it’s not even remotely funny. We’ve lost friends. We’ve lost lots of financial support. Sales of our other products have dropped dramatically. Sales on almost ready for release future products thus look just as bleak too – since apparently word has gone out that I’ve lost my mind. In short, we’ve been brought back down to nearly zero again, and now I’ve earned the reputation of being an idiot, heretic, cult-leader and worse – all while exceptionally ill-informed, moronic arm-chair critics think we’re getting rich over here. People have no clue. None. Good job Satan. You won. Party on dude.

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